He Had Money To Invest, But They Wouldn’t Let Him In the Room: Rethinking Who Gets Access to Institutional-Quality Deals

Shawn Muneio, Oct 15, 2026

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Host Brian Dally continues the conversation with Shawn Muneio of Bequest Asset Management about the FIRE movement’s “cash flow problem,” arguing that many paths to income (like rentals or buying businesses) become another job, while true passive income options are limited and why private credit can help.

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EPISODE 10 PART 02

He Had Money To Invest, But They Wouldn’t Let Him In the Room: Rethinking Who Gets Access to Institutional-Quality Deals

Shawn Muneio, Oct 15, 2026

Host Brian Dally continues the conversation with Shawn Muneio of Bequest Asset Management about the FIRE movement’s “cash flow problem,” arguing that many paths to income (like rentals or buying businesses) become another job, while true passive income options are limited and why private credit can help. Muneio explains the “forgotten investors of America”—sharing a story of how he was literally not allowed into the room despite having money to invest, and why it’s always bothered him when non-accredited investors are blocked from alternative investments. Dally and Muneio talk about bringing alternatives to everyone using paths like Regulation A. Both note regulatory compliance can improve products and that even accredited investors are attracted to regulated, stable structures. Muneio says younger investors are drawn to alternatives due to frustration with public markets and desire for connection and impact, then shares growth goals toward $1B AUM, rapid scaling with AI, and rapid-fire investing views, emphasizing diversification across uncorrelated assets.

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Ep 10 Part 02

Brian Dally: Welcome back to Beyond the Stock Market, a Groundfloor production. We're back for part two of our conversation with Shawn Muneio, co-founder and managing partner of Bequest Asset Management. Shawn, thanks again for joining us. We've got a lot to discuss, so let's dive right in.

As I said when we left off with part one, I want to ask you about the FIRE movement. This is Financial Independence Retire Early, F-I-R-E. There's a lot to like about FIRE. Save aggressively, invest consistently, build enough assets so that you're not dependent on a paycheck. That's the pitch. But I understand you argue that the movement has a fundamental cash flow problem. What's the problem that you see?

Shawn Muneio: Well, I think we kind of touched on it briefly in the earlier part, and that is, when people finally get here, likely they've started a business, they're an entrepreneur, and they've had a [00:01:00] nice exit on that, and now they've acquired a bunch of assets and they realize wherever they put that money, it turns out to be just another job. Another something that they're tied to that exchanges their time for money.

And so whether you're a successful entrepreneur and you decide, "Well, all right, I'm just going to go and buy a bunch of rental property and put my money in that," and you realize, "I just bought myself another job," or, "I'm going to go invest in another company and find out I now have to go run that thing."

There's very few options where passive income, true passive income, when you actually look at the true definition of the word, very, very few options where people can get that from. And so I think that's the beauty of private credit, and what we do and what a lot of investors are looking for.

Brian Dally: I guess part of that [00:02:00] kind of conflict or trade-off is around control. Because you bring up the example of an entrepreneur. You're an entrepreneur, I'm an entrepreneur. The thing that we most want and that we position ourselves for is control, right? We want the locus of control. We'd rather not give that up. And I know because it's one of your Cs, you guys position yourselves that same way. Is it fair to think about it as Bequest taking the workload of the control off of the investor?

I mean, I guess if you had enough money, you could go out and buy private notes yourself and get into the market, but then you've got to look after them. So that asset management work is part of the value you guys deliver.

Shawn Muneio: Yeah, and absolutely. So, at the end of the day, those investors have to trust that we actually know what we're doing. Obviously, in any world, and when you're investing alongside an asset manager, that's probably the number [00:03:00] one barrier that you've got to get over is trust. You're relinquishing control to another body who hopefully has more experience and more tools and processes and can efficiently do what you probably can't, like go buy your own pool of mortgages. You could absolutely do that.

You wanted to retire, you needed a cash flow, you want less stress in your life, and so you've taken that control and you've given it to somebody else. And so, we have to win over that control right to our investors by instilling trust in our processes.

Brian Dally: They're hiring you to delegate control in a way, which is, I think, a different thing from having to do it themselves or being completely beholden to some random fund or set of funds that people have put them in.

There's another term that I've heard you mention before, which is the "forgotten investors of America." [00:04:00] Tell me about that group of investors. Who are they and why do they matter?

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